Interview 5
First of all I want I want to ask you Randall, whether you remember your dreams now? We met in dreaming and you reached the petal. The question is whether you remember it. You reached the petal and you met me there… This is wonderful. You also met Yan Manuel who showed you some things regarding awareness. He is our friend from Beer-Sheva.
Ok, Let’s go!
We will start where we finished last time... in the Amber Levels.
Ok, Let’s go!
We will start where we finished last time... in the Amber Levels.
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Depiction of our Universe
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Amber level
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The Amber Levels are about the midpoint between the Dome of the Nagual and what is called the Dark Sea of Awareness. The Amber Levels are layers of pure awareness. It is a level of self-sufficiency, it doesn’t need anything and if you are there, you become one with this place. In the Amber Level there is a total merger on the basis that we are the manifestation of awareness. It became, for several parties of conscious beings, the place of escape... a safe haven, a quiet harbour. In order to get there it is necessary to transform the petal. I already said that in order to move within the Dark Sea of Awareness and in the space where Dark Seas are situated there is no need to transform the petal; one can move towards the other Dark Seas and keep the shape of the rhombus with the ball inside.
In order to penetrate the Amber Level we had to change our structure again, as we did in previous areas. We had to form our petals into a structure, reminiscent of this bell.
In order to penetrate the Amber Level we had to change our structure again, as we did in previous areas. We had to form our petals into a structure, reminiscent of this bell.
(The bell shaped figure is made up of Michael and his companions in dreaming.)
It contains the central discus, it has a directing part with long fibers (these are different beings), there are male and female elements on the edges. On the front part is a male element – fibres with little petals, This middle element is female - the white one slightly on the side. And this base is the male element, that also happens to be the translator for this conversation (Michael L. the translator for this interview).
It contains the central discus, it has a directing part with long fibers (these are different beings), there are male and female elements on the edges. On the front part is a male element – fibres with little petals, This middle element is female - the white one slightly on the side. And this base is the male element, that also happens to be the translator for this conversation (Michael L. the translator for this interview).
In other words we had to transform the petal in order to move on... and we had to do the same in order to enter into these gigantic amber openings of vibrating awareness.
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We had to transform from the petal (below left) and become the dark amber shape (below right) , flattened on two sides… a very dense ball.
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We were shown how to do it by other dark-honey coloured bulges of very dense conscious energy that were there. We managed to pass through this round vibrating hole. All these layers, all this mighty amber was singing and vibrating very beautifully and strangely. After we entered the inside becoming this “stone thrown into the water”, (they move very fast like stone or slow bullets and we called them “stone thrown into the water”), they brought us into the inner levels of this dense and very dense conscious amber where they showed us who they are. They separated and turned into human shapes of amber... they were conscious and cheerful; they were very happy. We interacted with them for several months, not verbally. For me it was several months as I had to come back and do all that trivial stuff, go to the bank etc., and during a walk, I had a flash of interaction with these ‘stones thrown into the water’, and at night... it lasted for a long time. They taught us certain modes of cooperation and we learned to assemble and disassemble ourselves into a similar structure. The only distinction was that we had a violet shade, a slightly glowing, violet filter around our “stone”.
I describe it in my new book. I don’t know when it will be finished as there are a lot of details. When we learned to work together with them… They also informed us of a peculiar detail: there were several dozens of these assemblies of beings who had left to enter into the Third Attention. They were chiefly groups of Naguals of Don Juan Matus’s lineage, but there were those who left much earlier than his lineage began and were not related to it. Still they were very few, and when we showed up… especially having operational physical bodies… they were very happy. They were thoroughly elated.
They reached this level by burning from within, uniting their energies. They left in stages and eventually reached this level. They also showed the other Dark Seas, whose agents were traveling with us, how to ‘light’ up their Seas… to give them more interest and stimulus. They sent their elements so that these elements could incarnate in those Dark Seas of Awareness that followed our exploratory routes.
Then there was a very complex action (I laboured hard to create this chapter in the new book so it will be difficult to describe it here, easier to read in the book later). But, what we did... together with these “stones” … was, we liberated them... and they rushed out to the higher levels (we’ll call them high).
We stayed to sort out our mobility issues. We were having the same problem as previously. Again we encountered wide stripes, wide multicolored, stretching to infinity, gigantic ribbons of energy (picture below left) . At the lower level they seemed thinner, but here they were enormous... and also endless.
I describe it in my new book. I don’t know when it will be finished as there are a lot of details. When we learned to work together with them… They also informed us of a peculiar detail: there were several dozens of these assemblies of beings who had left to enter into the Third Attention. They were chiefly groups of Naguals of Don Juan Matus’s lineage, but there were those who left much earlier than his lineage began and were not related to it. Still they were very few, and when we showed up… especially having operational physical bodies… they were very happy. They were thoroughly elated.
They reached this level by burning from within, uniting their energies. They left in stages and eventually reached this level. They also showed the other Dark Seas, whose agents were traveling with us, how to ‘light’ up their Seas… to give them more interest and stimulus. They sent their elements so that these elements could incarnate in those Dark Seas of Awareness that followed our exploratory routes.
Then there was a very complex action (I laboured hard to create this chapter in the new book so it will be difficult to describe it here, easier to read in the book later). But, what we did... together with these “stones” … was, we liberated them... and they rushed out to the higher levels (we’ll call them high).
We stayed to sort out our mobility issues. We were having the same problem as previously. Again we encountered wide stripes, wide multicolored, stretching to infinity, gigantic ribbons of energy (picture below left) . At the lower level they seemed thinner, but here they were enormous... and also endless.
We knew we could not move along them, so we went through them. This required an enormous expenditure of energy. But regardless, it was to our benefit as while we were moving back and forth between the Dark Sea and these other levels, it created and strengthened the pink lines. And this developed and strengthened the stream that was moving back and forth.
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When we came back, the information was perceived by all the petals of all the Dark Seas that took part in this process of movement towards the Dome of the Nagual. When we realized that moving either along or across the ribbons will not bring the desired result as they were endless, we turned our attention upward. It truth we tried many things, we weaved them, we tried to lift and move them, but they always returned to the same position as before. One of the female warriors finally decided to rush with top speed and overcome them... and we almost lost her.
I tried to weave them and all my companions repeated the action after me but the ribbons always returned to the same position. And when we finally started to look upward we discovered another plane, and that was where we had to go.
I tried to weave them and all my companions repeated the action after me but the ribbons always returned to the same position. And when we finally started to look upward we discovered another plane, and that was where we had to go.
This plane sort of reflected us. It was absolutely amorphous. It didn’t even have a colour. It comprehended absolutely everything but it was indifferent. It all lasted for quite a long time. We tried to jump to fly into it but there was no result until we directed a feeling of warmth and sympathy to it … and the sense of sympathy it directed back to us was of a sort I had never encountered before. It was very impersonal.
This sympathy sort of sucked us in and we found ourselves in a new space. It was gigantic and transparent but it was dark. As I told you before about the ring-like structure, it turned inside out like the sleeve of a shirt and in this way we slipped in through these impersonal levels. And we found ourselves in this space. We saw a very bright light. There were dots of light, in the red background.
But it turned out that the energy there was even more impersonal. It was so impersonal that we didn’t know what to hang on to. Despite everything we tried, we kept slipping down. Then I had an idea to create light impulses reminiscent of flowers, and build a multi-storied structure of them to climb on. But it didn’t help. This space was enormous... an endless red-orange shining nothingness. But I continued creating these “flowers”, fixed them and climbed on them and the other guys started doing the same.
Then a strange thing happened – all this space started laughing. It laughed without sound, without motion, without lips, it just laughed its heart out and then from somewhere above fell a spark and out of the spark a small human figure appeared. My non-existent jaw dropped. I asked myself the question ‘why does this thing look like a man’, and this gigantic space laughed even harder and said, “Why not? You make me these flowers so here is a man for you. I’ll speak through him”. We all started laughing. The space laughed as it knows and I laughed as I know, and all my friends who were with me laughed too. We were laughing for several weeks, chiefly in this world and also in the dreaming. It was pure elation and laughter.
I thought, that it was it. I reached the top and there is nothing else above it, only this red emptiness that laughs and is happy with me. But no! On day in the middle of the day, I entered my room to have some rest. I looked at the wall and the ceiling… and felt that I could see a superimposed picture – many small coloured bubbles and these bubbles started pushing me up… I was very tired. I didn’t sleep several nights. I was grumpy and I wanted to sleep. But I was so tired that I couldn’t sleep; but these bubbles kept bumping me up and then I would slowly descend again. And the next one pushed me again and so on, and so on. And I was higher and higher with every push. And suddenly I became as light as they are. I started jumping up on my own.
They were very numerous. They flew the same distance from one another and they all were similar, but slightly different. Each had a slightly different rainbow shade. Inside them were softly glowing amber trapeze-like figurings. They were barely visible. Suddenly I understood that they were pushing me towards something that was vaguely familiar to me. It was an opening somewhere upwards. When I flew close to this opening something like a voice, but not a voice told me: ”you will enter but only your pure presence can pass through.” This voice told me that all I know, all the energy I accumulated, all I am, would not be able to go through… and I went through… and didn’t go through. All I was fell off me in the form of spirals … or I spiraled out of all my awareness. I found myself in a space I could describe as an inverted dome and, at first, I couldn’t perceive anything. There was nothing there but it spoke with me. And I wasn’t there either as I was this pure presence.
After some time, if we can call it time, I realized that there was a revolving energy of a completely unfamiliar kind. It had indescribable colours, not seen in either our world or any other world I visited. The colours beyond the limits of the Dark Sea of Awareness are generally very different, as there is different energy over there... different from the amber layers, from ribbons’ or even from the red dome. There were several groups of very hard ribbons revolving there. They squeezed all energy out of me and substituted it with their own. And when I had my energy substituted with the energy of that place, I discovered several features there that I could perceive, including some sort of presence. This presence told me, “don’t worry.” I answered that I’m not worried. I asked, “Who are you”. And it answered “me is you. I always was here”. After that we fused together. I didn’t feel any difference ... we were identical. And this presence was the Dome of the Nagual. So here is the Dome of the Nagual ... if it is possible to describe it at all.
Then a strange thing happened – all this space started laughing. It laughed without sound, without motion, without lips, it just laughed its heart out and then from somewhere above fell a spark and out of the spark a small human figure appeared. My non-existent jaw dropped. I asked myself the question ‘why does this thing look like a man’, and this gigantic space laughed even harder and said, “Why not? You make me these flowers so here is a man for you. I’ll speak through him”. We all started laughing. The space laughed as it knows and I laughed as I know, and all my friends who were with me laughed too. We were laughing for several weeks, chiefly in this world and also in the dreaming. It was pure elation and laughter.
I thought, that it was it. I reached the top and there is nothing else above it, only this red emptiness that laughs and is happy with me. But no! On day in the middle of the day, I entered my room to have some rest. I looked at the wall and the ceiling… and felt that I could see a superimposed picture – many small coloured bubbles and these bubbles started pushing me up… I was very tired. I didn’t sleep several nights. I was grumpy and I wanted to sleep. But I was so tired that I couldn’t sleep; but these bubbles kept bumping me up and then I would slowly descend again. And the next one pushed me again and so on, and so on. And I was higher and higher with every push. And suddenly I became as light as they are. I started jumping up on my own.
They were very numerous. They flew the same distance from one another and they all were similar, but slightly different. Each had a slightly different rainbow shade. Inside them were softly glowing amber trapeze-like figurings. They were barely visible. Suddenly I understood that they were pushing me towards something that was vaguely familiar to me. It was an opening somewhere upwards. When I flew close to this opening something like a voice, but not a voice told me: ”you will enter but only your pure presence can pass through.” This voice told me that all I know, all the energy I accumulated, all I am, would not be able to go through… and I went through… and didn’t go through. All I was fell off me in the form of spirals … or I spiraled out of all my awareness. I found myself in a space I could describe as an inverted dome and, at first, I couldn’t perceive anything. There was nothing there but it spoke with me. And I wasn’t there either as I was this pure presence.
After some time, if we can call it time, I realized that there was a revolving energy of a completely unfamiliar kind. It had indescribable colours, not seen in either our world or any other world I visited. The colours beyond the limits of the Dark Sea of Awareness are generally very different, as there is different energy over there... different from the amber layers, from ribbons’ or even from the red dome. There were several groups of very hard ribbons revolving there. They squeezed all energy out of me and substituted it with their own. And when I had my energy substituted with the energy of that place, I discovered several features there that I could perceive, including some sort of presence. This presence told me, “don’t worry.” I answered that I’m not worried. I asked, “Who are you”. And it answered “me is you. I always was here”. After that we fused together. I didn’t feel any difference ... we were identical. And this presence was the Dome of the Nagual. So here is the Dome of the Nagual ... if it is possible to describe it at all.
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Dome of the Nagual
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When this fusion occurred, I managed to pull all my companions into the Dome of the Nagual.
And then there were many more adventures with my companions.
All this information is very strange for the human ear but I’ll continue.
Once upon a time in the endless here and now, in some undetermined time and some undetermined process of decision, the endless darkness, feeding and full of potential, decided to do something coordinated. It decided to reveal all of itself in one action... which it had never done before. When it made this decision a certain amount of energy seceded. We call this energy light. But the darkness is not interested in naming. However, when this flash, this lightening began weaving itself, it managed to fixate itself and start being conscious. When it became aware of itself it decided to make a copy. It copied itself. It no longer needed the large amorphous mass of darkness as a basis for making the decision. There was already this giant burst. And it made a certain amount of copies. The copies were not precise. The copies carried the possibility of changing and developing. And that’s what they started doing. It seems that we perceived this flash as coloured ribbons. These ribbons are also a continuation of the Domes of the Naguals. And every such copy, which are not numerous, are still sufficient to fill all this space that I call the garden of Nagual. Therefore copying lies in the basis of being. The simplest everyday things we do... is that we copy something. In all levels, in all densities, the copying is the main action that occurs there. Copying is a run-up to a creation. Our Dark Sea of Awareness, as any other Dark Sea, is wired to reveal itself. When it copies itself it accumulates mass to be able to reveal itself. And all that began from that first copying, which goes on until now. Therefore when someone like me, the double man, reaches the levels where the primary impulse occur, he or she just takes his or her own spotl. He or she was always there. It is just a copy. And in principle the Dome of the Nagual didn’t consider that there would be some sort of creatures, some kind of spirits, some levels of awareness in some Dark Sea. It just created types of impulses... these petals. And though they do not appear to be alike: one a ball, another endless conscious ribbons… the principle of copying is the underlining principle. It was assumed that the petal released outside the levels characteristic to the Nagual will copy, perceive and return back bringing new presence. In the case of our Dark Sea it all went much further. Different levels of doubles were created ...and projections of the doubles, and that caused the inner redevelopment that in turn caused our Dark Sea to become curious about where it came from. The idea that was directed by the Dome of The Nagual was to send impulses and receive back the copy. This way it copies itself. This is its “drawing technique”.
But there is also darkness. And it also has something like goals. These goals are not very clear to me. Besides, there is that first Nagual that started all this, this first Dome with gigantic enormous ribbons and, at least several types of these first petals. They have their own ways of development. Our type is not the only. I remembered at least two more. They all are very different vibrationally, so there is no point to go there and it’s not our task. Besides, behind the gigantic dark block which created this first flush, there is an even larger, indescribable Universe beyond the boundaries of what I just described in words.
But maybe we’ll talk about something else as I feel as if I just had ten cups of coffee at once. I feel like I’m on the frying pan. I feel very hot, everything is burning. I can’t talk about this topic anymore.
One of the tasks of returning to the Dome of the Nagual is “to bring your friends with you”. In other words, it wants to have all the varieties because each one of us is a copy of the Dome of the Nagual. Some a little more and some a little less. But I can’t talk about it anymore. I guess you don’t want me to burn right in front of your eyes.
Let’s talk about the Galaxies and Stars. I read once about Stephen Hawking and his black hole theory. It’s wrong, but I didn’t want to offend anyone. But no, black holes don’t create universes. Stephen Hawking wrote many books about it, it seems at least to be good as a fine joke... although not for him or some other people.
For some reason people are very curious about black holes.
The disk is situated in our structure. I will not talk about it as he is the only one in our group who came from the other side specifically to bring us over to the other side. His form is different from humans in general and our group in particular. He applied certain effort in order for us to accomplish a leap and start exploring the outer reaches of the Universe rather than stopping at going through the levels of our Dark Sea of Awareness. At that time I was very interested in the stars, as were a majority of my friends. They are very beautiful creatures. Then the disc brought us to a state of awareness where he showed us how our Galaxy looks for him. It was a very elegant structure from long, slightly twisted inward spiral rays. In the tips of these rays there is a round glow. Somehow by applying his will, he shaded part of them and illuminated 38 different types of stars. When he did this he described each of them and named them. The one I was most curious about was a black hole. Still, all of them were rays coming from centre of the Galaxy. At the same time the Galaxy looked kind of like a brush with round ends, reminiscent of the brushes the washing trucks use to wash the streets. All those with whom I worked with during the last decade were there, and we all came out of this space and exclaimed: “Wow, stars are so cool.” The disc offered to take us to simpler dreamings so we could adapt, but I wanted to go back and look at this beauty once again. I looked again at these 38 types of stars. They all were alive, real stars. It wasn’t some invented Galaxy.
Suddenly I felt the urge and I jumped into a Black Hole and appeared right in my body. I rushed with enormous speed and got exactly into my body. This saved me the effort I would have had to apply to remember all this, as when we enter the body we have to go through some stages and return in a specific way in order to lie down in a certain position to adjust to our physical body and then, maybe, we can still wake up and forget everything… So by jumping into the black hole I found myself exactly in my body with my memory completely retained.
The stars have several essential characteristics. I knew this even before this dreaming when I travelled independently while doing recapitulation. I discovered that a certain part of the human energy comes from the Sun. I followed this ray into the Sun. And as I was doing recapitulation there, I accessed the memory of the Sun, our star.
First, it is a very soft and gentle being. Our star possesses a certain degree of naivety. It is very cute. I’d describe it this way. And it is only on its third circle. ...as a star it manifests itself for only the third time.
And what do the stars do?
How do they manifest themselves?
When the energy from the Centre of the Galaxy, which is itself a projection of the Central Sun, moves towards the star's cocoon ( a star's cocoon is very similar to ours) the Sun accumulates this energy. And then it begins to place it outside of its own bubble of perception (coccon). In this way the Sun grows. But this glowing mass it is not what grows. What is growing is its awareness. It is very quick and fiery. And the moment comes when the Sun cannot hold on to it any more. And then the star has to make a decision. This decision is the only decision the star ever has to make... except for growing and accumulation awareness.
A star can discard the awareness... and it will contribute to the lives of new beings based on this discarded awareness. And then It goes to a new stage: it becomes a sun of a different bigger type, essentially growing bigger. And then eventually the same thing will happen: it accumulates awareness until the moment comes to discard the extra awareness.
Alternatively, it has the option of directing this energy inward along the channel. Exactly at the moment when it can discard the energy, it has the possibility to direct its attention to the shining channel, of a white glowing, incredible, bright, neon colour. Then its awareness is directed entirely to the centre of the galaxy and is united with the Central Sun of the Galaxy. And then we see a black hole instead of the star. We don’t really see it, we just perceive the effect. So it becomes a vacuum cleaner... a channel in the opposite direction… or in any other direction. If you are a pure awareness you can direct this channel anywhere you want as this is a channel of awareness. So our Sun has already twice discarded spare awareness… not daring to enter the channel. And now it accumulates awareness for the third time. Now it’s a size three, not breast, of course.
There are other types of stars. Each one of them carries a specific function and a dreamer can easily interact with them as they also have the shape of a ball… as does our Planet. We all, one way or another, are the likeness of a channel with a ball.... the channel and the ball. Same goes with the Earth, the Moon (although the moon is a somewhat different story and a different problem), a human, a deer, tree or anything else. A channel and a ball.
In order to accumulate enough energy to move further to other levels of awareness we were offered an exercise, to collect the energy of several stars… We went into the stars. They are very beautiful, very elegant balls of energy, they are all very soft and tender beings. They are all different. They all glow differently. Some of them are covered by impenetrable veils. While interacting with them we exchanged parts of our energies, left them something, and also received something from them. You become sort of light, elegantly dreamy. It’s like meeting your first love, you touch her hand and walk on inspired. You get the same feeling from interacting with stars.
Also, it is rather easy to remember these streams of energy that move through the Sun and into us and in the opposite direction.
Our Sun is a star that belongs to a much larger group. We are situated somewhere in the sleeve of Orion. It is especially easy for women as only approximately one tenth of the Sun consists of male energy and the rest are the female flushes. Thus it is somewhat harder for men to track this rather limited bunch of rays and move through it to the Sun or in the direction of stars affiliated with this current. There is a rather large group of male stars complete with planets that consist of male energy. You can feel them as a single entity. It is earnestly an amazing feeling. So it’s quite an easy, cheerful journey to these stars, and while interacting with this group of several hundred stars you understand how enormous the female part is. But all this has its limit. When we reach the Seventh Level, the Double, we reach the petals, and there is no male or female, human or celestial. These are creating units.
I will return to the description of the Densities.
The First Level … the outer level of the Dark Sea from both sides is semi-transparent but when as a singular awareness, you leave the Dark Sea and come back, you can see that there is some sort of transparent fringe. In this fringe there are rather simple although very important streams of energy. They are impersonal. They could be described as micro-units but it’s better to say that they are very basic ribbons and streams. When I tried to describe them for myself, I perceived them as micro-units, what is described as atoms, molecules etc. but I am afraid that it was only my description.
The Second Level of Density is also rather dense. It consists of basic elements. They are more formed. One can perceive them as hard objects. I wouldn’t describe them as stones or pieces of metal, but they are dense, sort of like pottery. They are no longer the fringe. They have some structure. They have a roundish, dented, slightly weaved structure, reminiscent of an ‘imprint’. They are perceiving beings… but not like the beings we know. They are like ‘programmed’. They don’t have their own will and they cannot make decisions on their own, like the programs of beings. I don’t want to confuse anyone with examples. It’s better that you see it all by yourself.
The Third and Fourth Levels are where we are located. In current times they are almost blended together. Among us humans, there are both types... Third and Fourth Level. The Third Level humans are unyielding, aggressive. They are busy all the time. I don’t mean the character, but rather their mode of interaction with the world. They constantly find themselves in tough life situations which they can’t overcome. At the same time, now there are a rather large number of beings of the Fourth Level of Density.
That is exactly what the galactic ray did. It removed the boundary, made it soft. Therefore, both types of awareness are situated in practically the same space. The people possessing more of the Fourth Density have the capacity to perceive signs, energy, waves coming to them, while the Third Density person won’t notice. If beings are situated in the upper edges of the Fourth Density level they can perceive energy directly and such a being can see the possibilities of the Fifth Density level. If in the Fourth Level the cocoon (bubble of perception) is still an important attribute – the bubble of the world catches it firmly.
In the Fifth Level of Density the bubble of the world doesn’t catch anymore. The world is much larger, it’s enormous because the bubble of the press on the luminescent being. In the Fifth Density on our side of the Dark Sea there are barely any limitations. The beings there can perceive almost all levels. There are only 2 membranes on the boundary of Fifth Level of Density. So the beings of the Fifth Density can see the possibilities of Sixth Density level.
The Sixth Density beings aren’t really cocoons anymore but rather mobile conglomerations of energy fields. They have a very good connection to their Double.
And the Seventh Density... the Doubles.
Eighth Density, the doubles too. But they have different possibilities and different functions.
All other levels are doubles too.
From what I could gather on the Eleventh Level there are only two Doubles but they are gigantic and they go back to the time when all this system of densities were created. That was their function. They are so big that it is hard to distinguish where one ends and the other begins. They are almost fused.
And then there were many more adventures with my companions.
All this information is very strange for the human ear but I’ll continue.
Once upon a time in the endless here and now, in some undetermined time and some undetermined process of decision, the endless darkness, feeding and full of potential, decided to do something coordinated. It decided to reveal all of itself in one action... which it had never done before. When it made this decision a certain amount of energy seceded. We call this energy light. But the darkness is not interested in naming. However, when this flash, this lightening began weaving itself, it managed to fixate itself and start being conscious. When it became aware of itself it decided to make a copy. It copied itself. It no longer needed the large amorphous mass of darkness as a basis for making the decision. There was already this giant burst. And it made a certain amount of copies. The copies were not precise. The copies carried the possibility of changing and developing. And that’s what they started doing. It seems that we perceived this flash as coloured ribbons. These ribbons are also a continuation of the Domes of the Naguals. And every such copy, which are not numerous, are still sufficient to fill all this space that I call the garden of Nagual. Therefore copying lies in the basis of being. The simplest everyday things we do... is that we copy something. In all levels, in all densities, the copying is the main action that occurs there. Copying is a run-up to a creation. Our Dark Sea of Awareness, as any other Dark Sea, is wired to reveal itself. When it copies itself it accumulates mass to be able to reveal itself. And all that began from that first copying, which goes on until now. Therefore when someone like me, the double man, reaches the levels where the primary impulse occur, he or she just takes his or her own spotl. He or she was always there. It is just a copy. And in principle the Dome of the Nagual didn’t consider that there would be some sort of creatures, some kind of spirits, some levels of awareness in some Dark Sea. It just created types of impulses... these petals. And though they do not appear to be alike: one a ball, another endless conscious ribbons… the principle of copying is the underlining principle. It was assumed that the petal released outside the levels characteristic to the Nagual will copy, perceive and return back bringing new presence. In the case of our Dark Sea it all went much further. Different levels of doubles were created ...and projections of the doubles, and that caused the inner redevelopment that in turn caused our Dark Sea to become curious about where it came from. The idea that was directed by the Dome of The Nagual was to send impulses and receive back the copy. This way it copies itself. This is its “drawing technique”.
But there is also darkness. And it also has something like goals. These goals are not very clear to me. Besides, there is that first Nagual that started all this, this first Dome with gigantic enormous ribbons and, at least several types of these first petals. They have their own ways of development. Our type is not the only. I remembered at least two more. They all are very different vibrationally, so there is no point to go there and it’s not our task. Besides, behind the gigantic dark block which created this first flush, there is an even larger, indescribable Universe beyond the boundaries of what I just described in words.
But maybe we’ll talk about something else as I feel as if I just had ten cups of coffee at once. I feel like I’m on the frying pan. I feel very hot, everything is burning. I can’t talk about this topic anymore.
One of the tasks of returning to the Dome of the Nagual is “to bring your friends with you”. In other words, it wants to have all the varieties because each one of us is a copy of the Dome of the Nagual. Some a little more and some a little less. But I can’t talk about it anymore. I guess you don’t want me to burn right in front of your eyes.
Let’s talk about the Galaxies and Stars. I read once about Stephen Hawking and his black hole theory. It’s wrong, but I didn’t want to offend anyone. But no, black holes don’t create universes. Stephen Hawking wrote many books about it, it seems at least to be good as a fine joke... although not for him or some other people.
For some reason people are very curious about black holes.
The disk is situated in our structure. I will not talk about it as he is the only one in our group who came from the other side specifically to bring us over to the other side. His form is different from humans in general and our group in particular. He applied certain effort in order for us to accomplish a leap and start exploring the outer reaches of the Universe rather than stopping at going through the levels of our Dark Sea of Awareness. At that time I was very interested in the stars, as were a majority of my friends. They are very beautiful creatures. Then the disc brought us to a state of awareness where he showed us how our Galaxy looks for him. It was a very elegant structure from long, slightly twisted inward spiral rays. In the tips of these rays there is a round glow. Somehow by applying his will, he shaded part of them and illuminated 38 different types of stars. When he did this he described each of them and named them. The one I was most curious about was a black hole. Still, all of them were rays coming from centre of the Galaxy. At the same time the Galaxy looked kind of like a brush with round ends, reminiscent of the brushes the washing trucks use to wash the streets. All those with whom I worked with during the last decade were there, and we all came out of this space and exclaimed: “Wow, stars are so cool.” The disc offered to take us to simpler dreamings so we could adapt, but I wanted to go back and look at this beauty once again. I looked again at these 38 types of stars. They all were alive, real stars. It wasn’t some invented Galaxy.
Suddenly I felt the urge and I jumped into a Black Hole and appeared right in my body. I rushed with enormous speed and got exactly into my body. This saved me the effort I would have had to apply to remember all this, as when we enter the body we have to go through some stages and return in a specific way in order to lie down in a certain position to adjust to our physical body and then, maybe, we can still wake up and forget everything… So by jumping into the black hole I found myself exactly in my body with my memory completely retained.
The stars have several essential characteristics. I knew this even before this dreaming when I travelled independently while doing recapitulation. I discovered that a certain part of the human energy comes from the Sun. I followed this ray into the Sun. And as I was doing recapitulation there, I accessed the memory of the Sun, our star.
First, it is a very soft and gentle being. Our star possesses a certain degree of naivety. It is very cute. I’d describe it this way. And it is only on its third circle. ...as a star it manifests itself for only the third time.
And what do the stars do?
How do they manifest themselves?
When the energy from the Centre of the Galaxy, which is itself a projection of the Central Sun, moves towards the star's cocoon ( a star's cocoon is very similar to ours) the Sun accumulates this energy. And then it begins to place it outside of its own bubble of perception (coccon). In this way the Sun grows. But this glowing mass it is not what grows. What is growing is its awareness. It is very quick and fiery. And the moment comes when the Sun cannot hold on to it any more. And then the star has to make a decision. This decision is the only decision the star ever has to make... except for growing and accumulation awareness.
A star can discard the awareness... and it will contribute to the lives of new beings based on this discarded awareness. And then It goes to a new stage: it becomes a sun of a different bigger type, essentially growing bigger. And then eventually the same thing will happen: it accumulates awareness until the moment comes to discard the extra awareness.
Alternatively, it has the option of directing this energy inward along the channel. Exactly at the moment when it can discard the energy, it has the possibility to direct its attention to the shining channel, of a white glowing, incredible, bright, neon colour. Then its awareness is directed entirely to the centre of the galaxy and is united with the Central Sun of the Galaxy. And then we see a black hole instead of the star. We don’t really see it, we just perceive the effect. So it becomes a vacuum cleaner... a channel in the opposite direction… or in any other direction. If you are a pure awareness you can direct this channel anywhere you want as this is a channel of awareness. So our Sun has already twice discarded spare awareness… not daring to enter the channel. And now it accumulates awareness for the third time. Now it’s a size three, not breast, of course.
There are other types of stars. Each one of them carries a specific function and a dreamer can easily interact with them as they also have the shape of a ball… as does our Planet. We all, one way or another, are the likeness of a channel with a ball.... the channel and the ball. Same goes with the Earth, the Moon (although the moon is a somewhat different story and a different problem), a human, a deer, tree or anything else. A channel and a ball.
In order to accumulate enough energy to move further to other levels of awareness we were offered an exercise, to collect the energy of several stars… We went into the stars. They are very beautiful, very elegant balls of energy, they are all very soft and tender beings. They are all different. They all glow differently. Some of them are covered by impenetrable veils. While interacting with them we exchanged parts of our energies, left them something, and also received something from them. You become sort of light, elegantly dreamy. It’s like meeting your first love, you touch her hand and walk on inspired. You get the same feeling from interacting with stars.
Also, it is rather easy to remember these streams of energy that move through the Sun and into us and in the opposite direction.
Our Sun is a star that belongs to a much larger group. We are situated somewhere in the sleeve of Orion. It is especially easy for women as only approximately one tenth of the Sun consists of male energy and the rest are the female flushes. Thus it is somewhat harder for men to track this rather limited bunch of rays and move through it to the Sun or in the direction of stars affiliated with this current. There is a rather large group of male stars complete with planets that consist of male energy. You can feel them as a single entity. It is earnestly an amazing feeling. So it’s quite an easy, cheerful journey to these stars, and while interacting with this group of several hundred stars you understand how enormous the female part is. But all this has its limit. When we reach the Seventh Level, the Double, we reach the petals, and there is no male or female, human or celestial. These are creating units.
I will return to the description of the Densities.
The First Level … the outer level of the Dark Sea from both sides is semi-transparent but when as a singular awareness, you leave the Dark Sea and come back, you can see that there is some sort of transparent fringe. In this fringe there are rather simple although very important streams of energy. They are impersonal. They could be described as micro-units but it’s better to say that they are very basic ribbons and streams. When I tried to describe them for myself, I perceived them as micro-units, what is described as atoms, molecules etc. but I am afraid that it was only my description.
The Second Level of Density is also rather dense. It consists of basic elements. They are more formed. One can perceive them as hard objects. I wouldn’t describe them as stones or pieces of metal, but they are dense, sort of like pottery. They are no longer the fringe. They have some structure. They have a roundish, dented, slightly weaved structure, reminiscent of an ‘imprint’. They are perceiving beings… but not like the beings we know. They are like ‘programmed’. They don’t have their own will and they cannot make decisions on their own, like the programs of beings. I don’t want to confuse anyone with examples. It’s better that you see it all by yourself.
The Third and Fourth Levels are where we are located. In current times they are almost blended together. Among us humans, there are both types... Third and Fourth Level. The Third Level humans are unyielding, aggressive. They are busy all the time. I don’t mean the character, but rather their mode of interaction with the world. They constantly find themselves in tough life situations which they can’t overcome. At the same time, now there are a rather large number of beings of the Fourth Level of Density.
That is exactly what the galactic ray did. It removed the boundary, made it soft. Therefore, both types of awareness are situated in practically the same space. The people possessing more of the Fourth Density have the capacity to perceive signs, energy, waves coming to them, while the Third Density person won’t notice. If beings are situated in the upper edges of the Fourth Density level they can perceive energy directly and such a being can see the possibilities of the Fifth Density level. If in the Fourth Level the cocoon (bubble of perception) is still an important attribute – the bubble of the world catches it firmly.
In the Fifth Level of Density the bubble of the world doesn’t catch anymore. The world is much larger, it’s enormous because the bubble of the press on the luminescent being. In the Fifth Density on our side of the Dark Sea there are barely any limitations. The beings there can perceive almost all levels. There are only 2 membranes on the boundary of Fifth Level of Density. So the beings of the Fifth Density can see the possibilities of Sixth Density level.
The Sixth Density beings aren’t really cocoons anymore but rather mobile conglomerations of energy fields. They have a very good connection to their Double.
And the Seventh Density... the Doubles.
Eighth Density, the doubles too. But they have different possibilities and different functions.
All other levels are doubles too.
From what I could gather on the Eleventh Level there are only two Doubles but they are gigantic and they go back to the time when all this system of densities were created. That was their function. They are so big that it is hard to distinguish where one ends and the other begins. They are almost fused.
